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Roles aren't converging—they're expanding | Tamar Yehoshua (Atlassian CPO)
Sep 28, 2026 · 21:31
Atlassian CPO Tamar Yehoshua argues AI is expanding—not converging—product roles, making PMs 'AI builders' who must choose between rowing (coding) and steering. She walks through three Atlassian examples: a non-coding Confluence PM shipped 26 PRs in a month as Remix launched in six weeks versus six months pre-AI; the zero-to-one Rovo Claw was vibe-coded by a PM and designer until the PM shifted to steering; and Jira shipped 22 features in about 10 weeks at 3X throughput without PMs touching production code. She details Atlassian's AI Fluency Index and its quarterly AI Builder's Weeks, which have trained over 1,000 people and produced 120 new workflows. She admits no one has figured out how to measure AI-era productivity; Atlassian tracks PRs deployed and features delivered.

Chatbots are not the final interface: OpenAI’s Head of Design on what’s next | Ian Silber
Aug 16, 2026 · 1:12:05
Ian Silber, head of product design at OpenAI, tells Lenny that designers' anxiety about AI comes from unclear expectations and a design process that still takes time even as engineers 10x, but insists this is the best time in history to be a designer because AI is already an incredible designer and anyone can make ideas real in minutes. He explains OpenAI hires for curiosity, prototyping and systems thinking rather than AI backgrounds, and steers designers to "just do less" by reusing systems and focusing on durable experiences. He defends the chat interface as the right way to span a wide spectrum of intelligence, and shares that ChatGPT's future involves proactivity, voice, and one universal input that works for novices and power users alike. He credits failure at Instagram with IGTV before Reels, and urges struggling designers to embrace exploration and focus on outcomes rather than process.
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